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Originally Posted by Pringle
It appears that it's yet another case of me not being allowed to have an opinion because it doesn't fit with other views. Just because my opinion might differ to others doesn't mean I cant have it. I haven't ignored any points, just dismissed them because the points put across don't really matter to me in the sense they still don't offer a valid enough argument as to why one should shell out extra mula for selvage. I know the japanese jeans fade nice and they look the shit but I just find them a real pita to fanny arse around pre shrinking then getting them tailored etc. And I'm not digging at the quality at all or slagging them off from a quality standpoint (again people putting words in my mouth) I am mainly digging at the crappy cuts of most the japanese brands. I know some of the Jap brands offer decent cuts but most don't to my mind.
The comment about women was a childish rebuttal back at Candleguys ridiculous comment and was intended that way. I guess that one went over your head? Who said I was assuming anything regarding peoples incomes? I'm just saying that Italian jeans (talking Armani, Valentino, D&G here not over priced Roberto Cavalli) are cheaper generally speaking and they may not be up to the japanese stuff in terms of denim quality and fades, but that's reflected in the price.
I think Armani jeans and Boss are better than Ralph Lauren and Hilfiger. As for Roberto Cavalli, I cant stand the brand I think it looks like over-priced tat and most is horribly gaudy and looks too metro. The jeans look really cheap looking and over-priced for what they are.
Either way, no ones proved me anything worthwhile in regards to why I should shell out on Japanese selvage. I think I will just stick to my inferior italian jeans until I find a pair of Evisu's that fit nice.- I think I will live *sob*
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Nobody said you can't have an opinion stop beign like a spoilt childm like everyone is against me, that's rubbish. I've asked but you didn't answer, which brands have you tried on to say that the cut is crappy? Many D and G jeans are around 120 to 145 a pair many japanese jeans can be had for this price if you shop around or ship from japan. If you say in your post that a woman would prefer someone with money to buy her a drink in their pocket than someone with japanese jeans its intimating they won't be able to afford to buy her a drink because they have a japanese brand denim, why else woudl you mention that??????????
You sem to think that anything over what you pay is overpriced, do you not consider D and G and Armani jeans overpriced? No because you get them, why are Roberto Cavalli overpriced when they are a different dneim to Just Cavalli which is a similar price point to D and G? Boss still are German in oprigin and tailoring I wouldn't classify them as Italian jeans. It just seems you look at a few products online then throw these statements having a go at something for no reason? By all means try them on and own some and then say what disappointed you but to just start insulting japanese denim adn saying the fit is crap is ridiculous.