parallel imports

[UK2004]

Dumb, as I said in previous email you are right for countries outside Italy, but for Italian brands they are available in wholesalers as well as by distirbutors, have you been to Italy?

If you go there you will find you have shops like Versace and Armani they sell stock straight from the disstributor then you will have a shop that sells 10 brands and they have purchased all their stock from wholesaler. In Italy as there is so much produced and so readily available they don't need to worry about fakes so they are happy to sell straight to wholesalers direct from the brand.

[Boro97]

Originally Posted by dumb5

but do brands sell to wholesalers? i was under the impression that brands allow distributors to distribute their product in a controlled way to retailers. so fourmarketing and itteriari etc distribute the brands products to the retailers so there are no wholesalers involved?

Brands do not sell to wholesalers the reason being the brand holders want to kep the prices as high as they can,
As for fourmarketing they will only sell to retail shops and not to wholesalers,

[UK2004]

Boro I'm talking about Italy you knwo as well as I do many parallel imports come from the Florence wholesaler, go and talk to a bent distirbutor in UK if you wnat the full facts.

[CD]

The brands sell a license for their products to be sold by distributors in particular regions. The distributor can then do what they like (as long as its within the contract - which would be only sold within xxxx). PIs can then purchase directly from these distributors in other countries & import them to the UK to sell on. So in theory the license agreement insnt broken as the products were purchased in that area. If the PIs then take them back to another region to sell, thats why codes / tags are removed.

E.g. some of the Stone Island distributors :

SPAIN : Modania S.A
UK : Four Marketing
SWITZERLAND : Max Trade
FRANCE : Good Idea
ITALY : Sportswear Company
SCANDINAVIA : Nitty Gritty

PIs would buy direct from any of these (at the best deal).

In UK wholesalers are basically the PIs.

[Boro97]

Originally Posted by UK2004

Boro I'm talking about Italy you knwo as well as I do many parallel imports come from the Florence wholesaler, go and talk to a bent distirbutor in UK if you wnat the full facts.

You want to get your atitude problem sorted out pal

[dumb5]

still confused. not dumb5 for nothing you know

so there are no wholesalers involved?

1. you have the brands

2. the brands give licenses to the distributors

3. the distributors sell to selected retailers

4. the selected retailers sell authentic garments through their exclusive stores.

I'm thinking thats right so far?

now who is responsible for the parallel imports? is it the distributors? would find it hard to believe they would risk their license for a few extra quid? or is it the retailers - i.e. the retailers order more than they need and sell the surplus to parallel imports? if it's the retailers selling to parallel importers they must find it very hard to make a decent profit because the retailer will need to make a profit and then the parallel importer will need to import the product and then try to undercut the official retailers in their own country.

[Boro97]

Originally Posted by dumb5

still confused. not dumb5 for nothing you know

so there are no wholesalers involved?

1. you have the brands

2. the brands give licenses to the distributors

3. the distributors sell to selected retailers

4. the selected retailers sell authentic garments through their exclusive stores.

I'm thinking thats right so far?

now who is responsible for the parallel imports? is it the distributors? would find it hard to believe they would risk their license for a few extra quid? or is it the retailers - i.e. the retailers order more than they need and sell the surplus to parallel imports? if it's the retailers selling to parallel importers they must find it very hard to make a decent profit because the retailer will need to make a profit and then the parallel importer will need to import the product and then try to undercut the official retailers in their own country.

uk distributors are only allowed to sell retail outlets
answer to the above your correct
who is responsible for parallel imports anybody who imports them from abroad , if you can go to italy and buy from there cheaper than you can buy from a uk distributor i carn't see whats wrong with that

[UK2004]

No attitude, stating a fact, wholesalers in the UK brands don't sell to, in Italy they do however, where you think Quinto get lots fo stock from?

Originally Posted by Boro97

You want to get your atitude problem sorted out pal

[melonie]

calm down boyz it's getting a bit hot in the kitchen. each have a starbucks iced maciatto (decaf) :wink:

[dumb5]

UK2004 so youre saying in italy the brands not only issue licenses to distributors who then sell onto selected retailers but youre also saying brands sell to wholesalers?

ive been to italy several times but didnt know this. it must p-off the distributors who have bought a license if the brands also sell to wholesalers. what control does the brand have over the wholesalers or can the wholesalers sell to anybody. can you give us a name of an official wholesaler in italy?